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Debbie Isaacs's avatar

Thank you again. Reading this, I feel my heartbeat instantly increase. I’m deeply saddened by the polarisation among my UK friends—it seems many have lost the capacity for empathy, which as we know, doesn’t even require taking sides. Your ending words also cut deep: “so pervasive that it feels almost inescapable.” Indeed. I assume you are familiar with the term “collective disassociation”. As well as the “inescapable” I am witnessing this increasingly too. With warmth.

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Tammy Rothenberg's avatar

Thanks this is spot on

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Clare Phillips's avatar

Thank you Dave. Your voice is much needed in the current climate. I have just finished reading your book Everyday Hate for the second time. I know it will be something I return to.

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Jeremy Nathan Brown's avatar

In response, starting with the Guardian .. often the U.K. newspaper with the best in depth articles, but unreadable when it comes to Israel or world Jewry which is why I stopped my subscription. It has a side to it for ever wishing to ‘dish the dirt’ on anything Israeli or connected to Jews. Shameful !

The BoD letter .. also shameful. There is enough biased Jew and Israel hate in the diaspora, that we don’t need Jews fanning it. As Denis Prager / Prager U advocates, ‘diaspora Jews support Israel whether Israel has a left wing or right wing government’ and if you feel that strongly, go and live in Israel.

Of course problems in the Sudan don’t register. It’s some African country and it’s not Jews causing the problem. No Jews, no news.

When educated people, including Jews, believe those parrot repeated lies that Israel is an apartheid state and one that is committing genocide, those people need a reality check. Israel has two million Arabs, Muslim and Christian participating in Israeli society at all levels, military, healthcare, judiciary and political, so that is not apartheid. Gaza’s population increases to 2 million in 20 years, that is not genocide. Yes, Gaza looks like a war zone because that is exactly what Hamas brought upon themselves. No Israeli politician or government has a chance in any rational discussion with the cult jihadist group.

There are more Arabs in Israel, than there are, Jews in Europe. We need to remain united and proud.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Thank you Dave. As eve, your comments are measured and extremely helpful. On the subject of unity, as you say, the community is not normally as unified as outsiders might believe. It takes the thankfully rare events such as antisemitism in the Labour party in the Corbyn era or October 7th to unify disparate groups. So, while unity can be advantageous in facing challenges I cannot see that we should be striving for unity as an end itself - neither unity within the UK Jewish community or unity with Israel at all costs. With regard to the latter, what does unity with Israel mean? Unity with the Israeli people (or sections of it) or unity with the Israeli government. However, what appears to have occurred is that the Israeli government has tried to take advantage of the majority of the diaspora's wish to appear unified in its support for Israel in seeking to use diaspora community's to express support for its actions. Despite many people having significant doubts as regards the intentions of the government, it gave it the benefit of the doubt and rallied behind it particularly in the numerous demonstrations for the return of the hostages. However, how did the Israeli government thank the diaspora communities? In two ways in particular. (1) Prominent members of the government have voiced what its critics have feared i.e. that the return of the hostages is not a priority. (2) It invited far right individuals from our communities to the antisemitism conference in Israel and ignored the concerns raised by even the more conservative minded who then stayed away. The far right was invited simply because it had expressed support for Israel even though it was plain that any support from that quarter was not driven by any regard for the Jewish people or Zionism but for the most part, by anti-Islamic sentiment. The Israeli government did not give any thought or did not care as to how inviting these people to the conference would affect Jewish communities in Europe or the US who have been battling for years (particularly since Oct 7th) to foster good relations with other faiths communities and not adopt the anti-Islamic rhetoric of the far right. Look at the lengths taken to ensure that Tommy Robinson did not join the protest in antisemitism march In London. What is ironic is that the far right politicians who attended the conference in Israel are using Israel to whitewash their racist views.

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Jim's avatar

I think the primary thing that would be best for Jews to do, is simply assimilate in the countries they find themselves in without trying to change those countries to make them feel safer (pushing for mass immigration to Europe/US to try and ensure White nationalism doesn't rise up for example).

The constant holocaust narrative creates a paranoia I think that leads Jews to make irrational decisions thinking they are protecting themselves, but it sabotages them. And it's hard to talk about this without people thinking we are being racist or mean, it's just most Whites even after helping Jews in WW2, have now had their countries in the US/Europe destroyed, mostly by Jewish advocacy suggesting the only way to "stop another Hitler" is to prevent White nationalism by diluting their populations. Popper's "Open Society" and Jewish neocons like Strauss spoke this way.

They want to "feel safe" from White nationalism while living in European lands, but also have their own ethnostate to run to if things get dicey in any place they happen to be living in (even if that's fleeing from criminal prosecution, as many have fled rape and child abuse cases in the US to Israel and there's no extradition to get them back. In all this, Jews just keep pushing "holocaust" to basically justify all of this, creating enough guilt where the masses won't notice and expell them once again. It's why many suggest assimilation and abandonment of obsession on "being Jews" might be the actual way to safety, stopping trying to be "other" and "special" and just be normal human beings.

"As a Jewish convert to Orthodox Christianity with a fairly wide set of historical books under my belt, it troubles me to see some hierarchs and channels following the world's narrative about "anti-Semitism" and all the things that have been done to "combat anti-Semitism." I'll tell you directly, as a 100% pure blooded Ashkenazi man, how to fix "anti-Semitism:" Anti-Semitism will end when faithless Jews leave other groups of people alone and stop trying to transform their nations and cultures in ways that invariably harm the populations in question. It is really not that complicated.”

– Brother Augustine (Michael Witcoff)

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Francisco J. Bernal's avatar

Even the scammers have evolved. The days of Nigerian Princes offering to share their fortunes are long gone. Now it’s the “OmarMohammeds” of Gaza. Endless clones rising from the ashes of banned accounts, each one tweaking a username by a digit or so ,reposting the same syrupy sob story to funnel donations into yet another near-identical GoFundMe.

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