Six months on from the horrors of October 7, with all the death, destruction and suffering that has followed, it is still shocking to find someone arguing that Hamas’s attack on Israel that day was not merely understandable, or justifiable, but actually inspiring.
"Ultimately, Dean’s article is just the latest version of an argument that sees the Palestinian struggle as the spearhead of anti-capitalist revolution the world over. It’s an essay-length version of all those 'Globalise the Intifada' chants."
Hamas's elites are known to be billionaires and there were many Gazans estimated to have made millions off of the consumer smuggling regime that grew out of Egypt's closure of its land border with Gaza. And the ayatollahs and the Emir of Qatar -- Hamas's chief financiers and protectors are not exactly anti-capitalists. How Jodi Dean and others like her square that circle is quite remarkable.
I can’t imagine these academic leftists, if they succeed in bringing in the society they envision, enjoying it for very long, for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on.
Amazing. I can't even immediately determine the impression of this essay.
The transition from reality to the realm of long-forgotten illusions and irrational passions.
In course. This is the professor, isn't it? Seriously?
I was born and raised in conditions of total propaganda of communism, Marxism and the ideology of the victory of communism over capitalism (its final stage, ha ha, imperialism).
To obtain a higher education, be it engineering or music, everyone was required to study Marxist-Leninist philosophy and the political economy of communism. It was obligatory not only to read, but also to repeatedly rewrite the works of Marx, Engels, Lenin and their correspondence with various philosophers and revolutionaries.
Therefore, I know the subject well, although I was not interested in it.
Even then, in the early 80s (and this was the time when the professor began his activities), the inferiority and failure of the ideology, economic and political teachings of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and others of Castro and Che Guevara was visible.
More precisely, already at the time when Karl Marx wrote the “Manifesto of the Communist Party,” he could not withstand the criticism of his contemporaries, and 70 years later he showed that the perverted forms of this teaching are a disaster.
I will not tell you why Marx's teaching is wrong, superficial, erroneous. This is a separate topic. But this teaching is contagious. It is contagious because it appeals to the most perverted instincts. It pushes people towards a rapid and infantile change in society through destruction - revolution and does not explain (and cannot. They do not know how to do this) how to build something.
This teaching is contagious because it is based on the principle of “Take-Destroy-Deceive.” This appeals to those who have never built anything. Professors with such leftist ideology, people who do not have such deep knowledge and experience, but most importantly, people who are dissatisfied with their position, feel inferior and do not want to change it to normal progressive (I use the word "progress" in common sense, that is , which was used initially) without revolutions and cataclysms. This is the ideology of maniacs.
Communism is not opposed to imperialism. Communism is imperialism in a more perverted form, built on ideological manipulation.
So it didn't surprise me that communism and the worst form of terrorism go hand in hand to the altar.
This union is organic and understandable. It is not clear why people, even those with several levels of education, cannot understand that this is global manipulation, substitution of concepts and simple cup and ball scam
When I began to read Everyday Hate the current Nakba had not yet occurred and I was not particularly interested in Israel before that happened. I first encountered anti-Semitism in 1957 when I was fifteen, and saw the photos of mass graves in a magazine. This was a core awakening for me as I had never before imagined that humans were capable of such evil. Around the same time I read Whitman's Leaves of Grass which was equally disturbing because I had never before encountered a mind with such depth of human sensitivity to beauty and lyrical openness to all beings. I have spent most of my life since then trying to understand how humans who are born with such a limitless potential for love and grace can be warped into engines of unlimited evil. I have been arrested for protesting against war and I once wore a yellow star in town. A woman asked me then if I was Jewish and I said "No, only on Remembrance Day." At this time of my life I have decided that the Human Problem stems from the abuse of our singular capacity for language and our long history of tribalism and authoritarian religion and politics that splits the world and our individual minds into good gods, good tribes, good selves and the hated Others. So I was attracted to Everyday Hate because I imagined it might be a forum for discussing the problen of hate and finding a better solution than hating the haters which is no solution at all and has been poisoning our species since we first began to speak.
"Which side are you on? Liberation or Zionism and imperialism? There are two sides and no alternative, no negotiation of the relation between oppressor and oppressed.”
Which side are you on Dave—Netanyahu’s politically expedient hate mongering and genocide or the largely innocent mothers, fathers and kids of Palestine?
"This doesn’t leave much room for a peace process, or any vision of a peaceful, shared future for Palestinians and Israelis."
Indeed. It does not.
"Even in ancient times, according to David Nirenberg, an ideology had already taken form 'that represented the struggle against tyranny in terms of a struggle against the Jews.'"
That ideology obviously began in the New Testament where the first Jewish Christians condemned his opponent Jews for colluding with Pilate in his execution. thus initiating the myth of Jews as Christ killers.
"It’s worth remembering all of this when asking why this conflict energises so many people, with the potency to bring hundreds of thousands onto the streets of Western cities and sustain a protest movement for months on end - a movement often organised and led, in part, by people from the radical left. We usually try to answer this via a series of rational, measurable factors: the awful loss of life and destruction in Gaza."
This is the first mention of this collossal atrocity I’ve seen in any of your posts, though it falls far short of any real compassion. Are you one of those Israelis who call Palestinians mere human animals or does your intellectual detachment and wounded heart simply preclude any natural human compassion or criticism of the Jewish state?
Douglas, I am not Israeli. I am British. That's why I write about Britain and not about Israel. More specifically I write about antisemitism in Britain (and other countries) - if you want to read people writing about Israel I'm sure you can find them elsewhere.
There is no tribe, religion or political cohort that is immune to the ancient error of hating the haters, even the ones who profess to follow the young rabbi who told us to love our enemies. The error of hating the haters is deeply ingrained, even in supposed academics and intellectuals. It's a collective schizoidism which most of us regard as a natural or even sacred response to the hatred of others and questioning it puts us at risk of being hated by our own tribe or academic cohort. So intellectuals afflicted by hateism respond to their illness by marshalling quasi-intellectual arguments for their hatred. And so we cut off the possibility of recognizing the humanity of those we hate and render ourselves incapable of love in the deepest sense for anyone, including ourselves. And of course no constructive dialog is possible or desired with hated others. Possibly the most despised are those who try to show that our intellectual pride is really a cover for our submission to this ancient madness with which only our species is cursed.
"Ultimately, Dean’s article is just the latest version of an argument that sees the Palestinian struggle as the spearhead of anti-capitalist revolution the world over. It’s an essay-length version of all those 'Globalise the Intifada' chants."
Hamas's elites are known to be billionaires and there were many Gazans estimated to have made millions off of the consumer smuggling regime that grew out of Egypt's closure of its land border with Gaza. And the ayatollahs and the Emir of Qatar -- Hamas's chief financiers and protectors are not exactly anti-capitalists. How Jodi Dean and others like her square that circle is quite remarkable.
Apposite and chilling, Dave. Campuses in the US are giving voice to this warped kind of thinking… Awful
But well done, you.
I can’t imagine these academic leftists, if they succeed in bringing in the society they envision, enjoying it for very long, for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on.
Amazing. I can't even immediately determine the impression of this essay.
The transition from reality to the realm of long-forgotten illusions and irrational passions.
In course. This is the professor, isn't it? Seriously?
I was born and raised in conditions of total propaganda of communism, Marxism and the ideology of the victory of communism over capitalism (its final stage, ha ha, imperialism).
To obtain a higher education, be it engineering or music, everyone was required to study Marxist-Leninist philosophy and the political economy of communism. It was obligatory not only to read, but also to repeatedly rewrite the works of Marx, Engels, Lenin and their correspondence with various philosophers and revolutionaries.
Therefore, I know the subject well, although I was not interested in it.
Even then, in the early 80s (and this was the time when the professor began his activities), the inferiority and failure of the ideology, economic and political teachings of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and others of Castro and Che Guevara was visible.
More precisely, already at the time when Karl Marx wrote the “Manifesto of the Communist Party,” he could not withstand the criticism of his contemporaries, and 70 years later he showed that the perverted forms of this teaching are a disaster.
I will not tell you why Marx's teaching is wrong, superficial, erroneous. This is a separate topic. But this teaching is contagious. It is contagious because it appeals to the most perverted instincts. It pushes people towards a rapid and infantile change in society through destruction - revolution and does not explain (and cannot. They do not know how to do this) how to build something.
This teaching is contagious because it is based on the principle of “Take-Destroy-Deceive.” This appeals to those who have never built anything. Professors with such leftist ideology, people who do not have such deep knowledge and experience, but most importantly, people who are dissatisfied with their position, feel inferior and do not want to change it to normal progressive (I use the word "progress" in common sense, that is , which was used initially) without revolutions and cataclysms. This is the ideology of maniacs.
Communism is not opposed to imperialism. Communism is imperialism in a more perverted form, built on ideological manipulation.
So it didn't surprise me that communism and the worst form of terrorism go hand in hand to the altar.
This union is organic and understandable. It is not clear why people, even those with several levels of education, cannot understand that this is global manipulation, substitution of concepts and simple cup and ball scam
Good morning Dave.
When I began to read Everyday Hate the current Nakba had not yet occurred and I was not particularly interested in Israel before that happened. I first encountered anti-Semitism in 1957 when I was fifteen, and saw the photos of mass graves in a magazine. This was a core awakening for me as I had never before imagined that humans were capable of such evil. Around the same time I read Whitman's Leaves of Grass which was equally disturbing because I had never before encountered a mind with such depth of human sensitivity to beauty and lyrical openness to all beings. I have spent most of my life since then trying to understand how humans who are born with such a limitless potential for love and grace can be warped into engines of unlimited evil. I have been arrested for protesting against war and I once wore a yellow star in town. A woman asked me then if I was Jewish and I said "No, only on Remembrance Day." At this time of my life I have decided that the Human Problem stems from the abuse of our singular capacity for language and our long history of tribalism and authoritarian religion and politics that splits the world and our individual minds into good gods, good tribes, good selves and the hated Others. So I was attracted to Everyday Hate because I imagined it might be a forum for discussing the problen of hate and finding a better solution than hating the haters which is no solution at all and has been poisoning our species since we first began to speak.
"Which side are you on? Liberation or Zionism and imperialism? There are two sides and no alternative, no negotiation of the relation between oppressor and oppressed.”
Which side are you on Dave—Netanyahu’s politically expedient hate mongering and genocide or the largely innocent mothers, fathers and kids of Palestine?
"This doesn’t leave much room for a peace process, or any vision of a peaceful, shared future for Palestinians and Israelis."
Indeed. It does not.
"Even in ancient times, according to David Nirenberg, an ideology had already taken form 'that represented the struggle against tyranny in terms of a struggle against the Jews.'"
That ideology obviously began in the New Testament where the first Jewish Christians condemned his opponent Jews for colluding with Pilate in his execution. thus initiating the myth of Jews as Christ killers.
"It’s worth remembering all of this when asking why this conflict energises so many people, with the potency to bring hundreds of thousands onto the streets of Western cities and sustain a protest movement for months on end - a movement often organised and led, in part, by people from the radical left. We usually try to answer this via a series of rational, measurable factors: the awful loss of life and destruction in Gaza."
This is the first mention of this collossal atrocity I’ve seen in any of your posts, though it falls far short of any real compassion. Are you one of those Israelis who call Palestinians mere human animals or does your intellectual detachment and wounded heart simply preclude any natural human compassion or criticism of the Jewish state?
Douglas, I am not Israeli. I am British. That's why I write about Britain and not about Israel. More specifically I write about antisemitism in Britain (and other countries) - if you want to read people writing about Israel I'm sure you can find them elsewhere.
Mr Wilton is precisely the kind of person who needs to read your book and understand it's message.
There is no tribe, religion or political cohort that is immune to the ancient error of hating the haters, even the ones who profess to follow the young rabbi who told us to love our enemies. The error of hating the haters is deeply ingrained, even in supposed academics and intellectuals. It's a collective schizoidism which most of us regard as a natural or even sacred response to the hatred of others and questioning it puts us at risk of being hated by our own tribe or academic cohort. So intellectuals afflicted by hateism respond to their illness by marshalling quasi-intellectual arguments for their hatred. And so we cut off the possibility of recognizing the humanity of those we hate and render ourselves incapable of love in the deepest sense for anyone, including ourselves. And of course no constructive dialog is possible or desired with hated others. Possibly the most despised are those who try to show that our intellectual pride is really a cover for our submission to this ancient madness with which only our species is cursed.